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Old Oct 06, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06   #1
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After searching for information about the ability to bring your heroes from Nightfall over to Factions/Prophecies, I discovered that it is something that has not been discussed much. I don't see why the Heroes cant travel to Tyria of Cantha, similar to how Mehnlo (sorry if i spelled his name wrong) and friends went over to Cantha. I know that having the ability to bring lv20 heroes to previous chapters of GW could perhaps unbalance the pve, but I would love to have my Heroes in the lv20+ areas in Factions and Prophecies. It would be awsome to have your Heroes and two other friends with their heroes making groups for Urgoz or The Deep. There are also ways that Heroes would affect previous editions, such as Droks runners using Heroes with run buffs to complete runs. It would be really cool for people who have purchased all the Guild Wars games to be able to take their Heroes to previous chapters.
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 12:10 AM // 00:10   #2
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It looks like the system was set up to be able to do this, but last time I saw Gaile, she said she couldn't confirm nor deny it. It wouldn't really even be unbalancing if you consider that the hero could be kind of a substitute for another player who might be level 20 anyway.
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 12:24 AM // 00:24   #3
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The rather conspicuous lack of a confirmation either way has me a bit worried now. Last I heard, Gaile said she'd check and get back to us but that was a while back. If heroes won't be able to go to prior chapters I wish they'd just tell us so I don't go and order Nightfall thinking they will only to be disappointed.
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01   #4
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It looks like the system was set up to be able to do this, but last time I saw Gaile, she said she couldn't confirm nor deny it. It wouldn't really even be unbalancing if you consider that the hero could be kind of a substitute for another player who might be level 20 anyway.
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 01:34 AM // 01:34   #5
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How will it be any easier than grouping with other level 20 players?
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48   #6
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I sure hope you can bring them over...

The way I see it, they will help with the missions that has a lack of players or are unpopular in generel. Fire isle missions for example... some stuff in crystal desert too.


they wont be able to hold up in FoW or UW tho, but they should nicely replace henchies
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50   #7
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How will it be any easier than grouping with other level 20 players?
Like henchman but smarter, they dont go leeroy or quit on you.

As for the topic, TBH i dont think Heroes will be able to cross over to GWP, GWF. But as with Rit and sin skills in NF, many of us have been proven wrong before. Will wait to wait it out and see.
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 01:53 AM // 01:53   #8
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Like henchman but smarter, they dont go leeroy or quit on you.
True, but that's hardly a balance issue.
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45   #9
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these AI-controlled NPCs will stay by your side once found through questing and play an itegral part of Nightfall's grand storyline.

Ok so the quote does not realy hint at much, but my guess is that they will not be able to leave elona.

On the other hand the skills menue would not change if you switched from 1 campaign to the next, so why would you not be able to bring the heroes with you?

hmmm, I do so hope that Gaile grants us with the much needed info we seek
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18   #10
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I believe that the heros will be able to go with you, because when you were in Tyria or Cantha you had access to not just the party flag but also the 1,2,3 flags... This is a small amount of info to go on, but think about it. People are complaining that there aren't enough people to complete some missions heros will alleviate this problem.
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 10:20 AM // 10:20   #11
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Id love the ability to move heros accros would make it easier for a level 20 character to finish the other chapters.
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 10:46 AM // 10:46   #12
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Henchies disadvantage: They dont have /secondary skills, which sometimes prove usefull. Also Little Thom's Charge isnt wanted in every situation. And henchies dont use Rebirth when they should have it.

Real Players disadvantage: They dont listen as well, when you whip them around. They dont listen at all, because sometimes they dont speak english. Or they say they brought Blood Ritual, but they didnt actually bring it.

Heroes: CAN use /secondary skills. CAN be whipped around and following orders. They DO bring the skills that you ask them to bring, and your own build will be able to work usefully. CAN change Restore Life to Rebirth. (and use flags and the Monk hero miniskillbar to use it wisely)

BTW: not being able to bring the Heroes to other chapters will result in a GUI that isnt 100% used in previous chapters than Nightfall. Inventory and Skill screens already had the Hero expansion on them in the preview.

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Old Oct 06, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30   #13
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I doubt heroes will be able to leave the continent, but we'll just have to wait and see >_<
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Old Oct 06, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54   #14
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Well if they don't come over then I'll cancel my preorder .... a hefty chunk of why I want nightfall is to bring all my toons up to speed through Tyria and Cantha and I'm sick to death of empty towns/outposts.

What's the point of buying nightfall and MERGING accounts if Tyria and Cathna doesn't benefit.

This would be like buying factions for the material storage upgrade but that's only usable in Cantha and not in Tyria - simply stupid.

I'm pretty confident that hero'es are portable and like some of the above posters I can confirm that in tyria/catha during WPE the UI was the same and hechies did obey the flags.... that gives me confidence that the heroes will be there.
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Old Oct 07, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43   #15
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Im not very good at taking information from other threads and bringing them to this one, but in another thread it has been confirmed by Gaile Gray that heroes will indeed be able to cross over to Tyria and Cantha. This is gonna be awsome, now i gotta get Nightfall . Well i guess the moderator dude will have to merge this with the other thread or close it. See you guys in Nightfall.
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